A21 - M25 - M26 Comments

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These are all the comments about this junction, with the newest at the top.

October 2010

Zakia has only contempt:

It's such a nightmare, and needs to be dealt with. The junction is built incredibly full of stupidity.

August 2010

Catford Cat writes:

It is kinda crappy, but I think the clockwise approach (i.e. going from Dartford towards Clacket Lane) is simply in need of a sign that says "don't panic, stay in the lane you're in until it all sorts itself out" - if you do that, it isn't a problem. If people suddenly panic at the sight of faster traffic to their left and do something stupid, then it can be...

February 2010

Tim Shaw writes:

I could not agree more. What a complete highways fiasco in having 3 main UK highways in Kent unable to properly connect and move UK and European traffic in 2010. The A20, A227, A228 and A25 Kent villages are all suffering a horrendous traffic nightmare because traffic from Europe and East Kent heading towards Tonbridge, Tunbridge Wells, Hastings etc (vice versa) cannot go down the M26 to use the A21.

November 2009

James agrees:

My mother absolutely hates this junction - even though she remembers it being built and we all know the roads round here like the backs of our collective hands. I tend to agree with her. The worst bit is the "exit" slip road of the clockwise M25 onto the M26-now-turned-M25. You come out and there's simply nowhere to go.

I watch the traffic cameras on trafficengland.com occasionally (boredom) and I've seen more than one overturned lorry taking the road too fast there! It's evidently a nasty place to be, whoever you are...

May 2008

Ba Storey would like south to east sliproads:

I agree with everything the other commentors have said. What they failed to mention is the impact on the surrounding villages that this lop-sised junction has. Lorries (and anything else) wanting to go to say Sevenoaks town from the coast need to leave the M20 at Wrotham, and travel along the A25 through Borough Green, Seal, Bat and Ball etc. The traffic jams at peak times are horrendous. I have the misfortune to work just outside Sevenoaks, at Sundridge. I travel from West Malling, a journey of 14 miles which usually takes an hour. This is quite ridiculous when I could use M26 all the way. There must be many people like me who waste hours and gallons of petrol in this way, not to mention the impact on the villages. Something must be done.

April 2008

Fabian unravels the mysteries of the M25:

Apart from it being a particularly disastrous junction, what I like about it is that if you get on the A21 at Tonbridge and drive north, and never turn off, after going round the M25, back to this junction for a second time, you eventually end up in Dover.

March 2007

Craig Morris is still scratching his head:

I travel this route quite often and travelling anti-clockwise I agree that the peel off slip road that joins the M25 to the, erm, M25 is confusing to say the least. Get in the inside lane, as prompted by signs, and end up stuck behind a lorry doing 40mph uphill for the next mile until being allowed by road markings to overtake.

Coming clockwise from Dartford, again you have to leave the M25 simply to stay on the road! But worse, when you rejoin after a sweeping right-hand bend you find yourself in the outside lane. Confused? You will be!

Surely any idiot can see that the M25 should be a ring road, and by definition you should be able to go round in circles to your heart's content without having to negotiate dodgy slip roads.

January 2007

Laurie fears for his safety:

Thank you for highlighting this, the most dangerous junction on the M25. What kind of motorway junction is it where you have to take a slip road to stay on the motorway?

One constantly sees baffled drivers pulling off the straight road at the last minute, having just realised that they are about to be drawn inexorably onto the A21.

It's a killer, and should be fixed pronto.

October 2006

Paul Simons writes:

Conferring with other drivers complaining about this joke of a junction, try travelling clockwise from Dartford, past the point where the A21 peels off. The "M25" is a twisty two-lane feeder road with a very sharp right hand bend to line it up with the Surrey-bound stretch of the M25. I have seen many vehicles struggle to stay on the road while negotiating this bend. Vehicles then start to accelerate to join the M26. M26 traffic has a straight run through, so is normally travelling faster than traffic on the "M25", meaning that traffic in the left hand lane(s) is travelling faster than traffic in the right hand lanes.

September 2006

Jack Reddall tells a cautionary tale:

Since the opening of the M25/M26/M20 in their entirety, I haven't needed to use the A25, but I decided to stop for dinner at a pub in Brasted on the A25, on my way to Ashford. In 'the old days' I would have had to drive on to Wrotham, and pick up the M20 there, but I thought "ha! There must be a way back onto the motorway system towards Maidstone surely". Not so! Having restarted my journey, I found directions just the other side of Brasted to the M25. Thus began a (short) detour towards the Dartford Crossing, which I was able to remedy at the next exit on the M25. Chastened, I continued (slowly) on the A25 and eventually rejoined the motorway system at Wrotham. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose!

March 2006

Martyn Feather has trouble heading anticlockwise around the M25:

As you approach the junction, access to the M25 is via the inside lane, which at this point is still full of HGVs heading for the Channel. So it's a slow slog. Or - you could wait to the very end, just when some foreign HGV driver realises he needs to pull out into the middle lane to continue on the M26 - oops too late! Or, as is the case with those unfamiliar with the junction, "surely I don't have to turn off the M25 to stay on the M25?" - "damn... I do!" - and veers straight over the hatched area onto the M25 slip - just. Yep, I've seen all of the above, and they happen on a scarily regular basis.

Finally to cap it all, the slip goes uphill, it divides into two lanes just before the exit. So the inner lane tends to be slow, while the outer is much faster. The inner continues on and becomes the third and innermost lane of what was the two lane A21, whilst the now faster moving traffic feeds into the slower inner lane of the former A21! Great!

Tim Havenhand adds the following for the prosecution:

A point you neglect is that if you want to leave the M25 heading clockwise/south on the A21 is that you have to leave the motorway by a slip road in the outside lane, which is confusing in the least, and if a slow lorry is wanting to get there, probably a danger.

Richard Crossley writes:

Consider that if the UK road numbers were abolished and replaced with a Europewide numbering system, ie the E-routes, the main route would be that of the E40 which is straight through the junction. Just my $0.02 or is that EUR 0.02!