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October 2009

An anonymous contributor has come to a complete stop:

There was never a major problem at this junction, coming from Portsmouth direction, until they added traffic lights. There used to be a dedicated lane to go straight onto the M271 and one for Romsey access. Now everyone has to stop, causing tailbacks onto the motorway which never existed before they decided to "improve" the junction. Madness.

May 2007

Jim Champion notes the latest changes:

Back in March 2006 some changes were made to this bad junction. And to be honest the traffic flow has improved in the early morning rush hour, but I don't have any evidence for a causal link.

The changes:

* northbound side of the roundabout (over the M27) is now three lanes.
* southbound side of the roundabout (over the M27) is now two lanes, with a new set of traffic lights controlling traffic going straight on (onto M271 towards southampton) or right (onto M27 slip westbound).
* westbound slip off the M27 up to the roundabout now starts earlier, meaning no hard shoulder for some distance on the M27 (a blue sign announces this).
* no longer a dedicated slip at the roundabout from M27 westbound onto M271 southbound - instead all traffic coming off M27 is controlled by traffic light at the top.
* Its still a busy junction, but I think its a little less "bad" than before. I'd give it a bit more time though.

The slip down onto the M27 eastbound is still ridiculous: two lanes off the roundabout go into one before joining the uphill motorway, lots of lorries from the docks & industrial estate... fun and games.

November 2006

Peter sees the bigger picture:

The reason that this is a bad junction is that Portsmouth city had the sense to fight for the budget for a 'proper' junction [for the M275] as they realised this would make their port more attractive (Southampton no longer has cross channel ferries partly as a result).

Southampton still has a huge container and vehicle terminal, and this junction should attract funding as this is the route for all port traffic, which is set to grow.

July 2006

Jim Champion finds his days cursed by this junction:

This junction makes my morning journey very frustrating. I want to travel up the M271, turning left at this bad junction to travel west on the M27. The M271 is two lanes, both of which become blocked with traffic (cars, lorries leaving the docks and the Nursling Industrial Estate) that wants to turn right to travel east on the M27 and are held up by the roundabout traffic lights and congestion eastbound on the M27. The usual situation is that we sit there in a queue knowing that we would save 5-10 minutes by driving along the hard shoulder to the roundabout (where another lane appears for those turning left onto the M27). On occasions we take an alternative route to junction 1 of the M27 (through Totton on A and B roads) because it takes less time than waiting on the "M"271.

Another amusing why-is-the-M271-a-motorway? story... almost every day I see cyclists riding north along the hard shoulder of the M271 between the Redbridge Roundabout and the Nursling Junction, probably because it's the quickest/shortest route. I've seen the cyclists stopped by the police, but they're still back there the next day.

June 2005

Steve points the finger of blame:

The problem with this junction is the Highways Agency and their incompetence. Firstly white hatching has been painted onto the M27 eastbound entry slip on leaving the roundabout, narrowing two lanes to one-and-a-half before widening again after the bend. Secondly, the traffic lights where the M271 northbound meets the roundabout aren't required as there are very few vehicles heading from the M27 (east of the junction) northbound up the M271. Even in rush hour there are only a handful of vehicles travelling in this direction. Off peak the lights often turn red for traffic heading out of Southampton, in order to let no cars pass through. Maybe Southampton City Council gave them the idea!

Jonathan Fry writes:

The repurcussions of the roundabout which splits the M271 in two go far beyond the basic junction.

Queues often build up on the M271 for traffic wishing to turn left onto the M27 West - but even though there is a left filter on the roundabout it is held up by traffic lights. The M271 connects the superior dual-three-laned carriageway from the docks to the M27 and M3 but the queues are so bad that HGV vehicles and car carriers plough down from the top of the M3 through the suburbs (Bassett Avenue) to avoid it, creating massive congestion in a low capacity inner-city network.

The M271 actually is a highly important route but it needs a grade seperated junction with left and right funnels from the northbound carriageway and a left filter from M27 West onto M271 South. The mocked northern section of motorway is so short you can see the signs for 'reduce speed now' as soon as you join it so it could be destroyed to make way for a grade seperation.

And just to rub our noses in it, the junction with the M275 at Portsmouth is a spectacular display of how it should be done - grade seperation with free flowing filters and funnels in all directions. Bravo - but damn!

Glenn adds more prosecution material:

The lights are no longer peak-time, they've been full-time for a while now!